Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Like going back to camp, but on one foot

They--okay, some of them--show up for morning minyan in shorts. (!) Then they race through Shacharit (Morning Service) as if the prayers were part of Color War. Go figure.

5 Comments:

Anonymous Mich said...

The showing up in shorts I have no problem with. (I realize there's a halakhic issue for some, see quote below.) I'll take the people who show up in shorts over those who stay home in their long pants and skirts.

I'm confused about the racing; do they go faster than the s"z?

Quote from a VBM article: "In modern times, some authorities have revisited this issue, questioning the propriety of wearing short sleeves, at least, or even shorts, during prayer (see Rav Ovadya Yosef in Yechave Da'at 4:8). The Shulchan Arukh (90:5), for example, writes "one should not stand up for prayer… with exposed feet, if the accepted practice is to greet important people with shoes…" The Mishna Berura (91:11-13), points out, that is hot countries where it is customary to stand before important people barefooted, one need not be concerned even if one is wearing "short clothing through which the legs are visible.""

Wed Jul 15, 11:49:00 AM 2009  
Anonymous jdub said...

Agreed. I'd rather them come to shul in shorts than not at all.

I will occasionally run in for mincha/ma'ariv wearing shorts, if that's what i've been wearing all day. I try not to do that for shacharit, though, since I can get dressed for minyan and throw on shorts after.

And I wear sandals in the summer. God doesn't mind. I have it on good authority.

Wed Jul 15, 04:02:00 PM 2009  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

I suppose you're right--it's better that people show up in shorts than not come to minyan.

"I'm confused about the racing; do they go faster than the s"z?" (Er, would that be short for shatz (shaliach tzibur, prayer leader)?

You don't get it, Mich--it's the *shatz* who's racing!

Wed Jul 15, 05:44:00 PM 2009  
Anonymous jdub said...

How do you define racing? one shul i go to, start to finish is 30 minutes. That's racing. The one I prefer to go to takes closer to 40 minutes, which is a good speed.

Thu Jul 16, 10:31:00 AM 2009  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

Thirty minutes seems about right, to the best of my recollection--I’ve been too busy trying to keep up (so that I’m in time to say kaddish) to time it since my “trial run."

Forty minutes would be an improvement, 45 even better. Once or twice the shatz has davvened so quickly that not only did I miss Tachanun (as always), I missed most of the 2nd Ashrei (which I usually manage to say), all of La-m'nateiach (which I often manage to say), all of Kedushah d'Sidrah/U'va L'Tzion Goel (of which I rarely get to say the whole passage), and almost all of Aleinu (which I almost always get to say)!

Thu Jul 16, 11:20:00 AM 2009  

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